jury immigrated from mexico. >> right. >> never got past the fourth grade, both of you went to stanford and have law degrees from harvard. how did that happen? you know, our grandmother and everybody in our family worked very hard, so that we could have the very best opportunity possible and, you know, as julian told the story, was a cook for her entire adult life, scraping by to give my mom the best chance we could, my mom and, our zero mom and dad did the same for us. >> it is an american dream story and the point of the peach is that doesn't happen by accident, you have to invest in opportunities for folks, with public schools, we went to public schools, we were able to get through those universities on financial aid and student loans and grants and scholarships and that's exactly what president obama has been talking about, investing in those things so that america can be the land of opportunity and be competitive in the 21st century global economy. >> have you paid off the student loans? >> he has, i haven't. >> i have, yes.